Comments on: Oh man if Tori Amos were here right now she would need so many hugs from me - an American Doll Posse review

By: JoshD

JoshD — Sat, 05 May 2007 00:08:32 +0000

DJ, I am going to punch you in the dick.

By: hotshotrobot

hotshotrobot — Fri, 04 May 2007 15:16:05 +0000

Actually, Josh, you’re totally wrong. Albums have always been made to skip songs. That’s why vinyl has those spaces in the grooves; so you can see when the next song starts and skip to it. And Commercial Cassettes? Well, obviously you were supposed to buy those decks that could detect silence and stop fast-forwarding before the next song. Sheesh.

By: joiezabel

joiezabel — Fri, 04 May 2007 15:03:44 +0000

rubens, you just made 2 really lame points there. i am not even going to waste my breathe arguing with you as josh has already admirably done so but geez…i just had to point it out. LAME.

By: David V

David V — Fri, 04 May 2007 12:48:10 +0000

I agree that it’s not right for people to expect any artist to keep churning out the same style of music for more than a decade. It’s sickening to hear a Tori “fan” piss and moan about how much they miss all of her music prior to Scarlet’s Walk. Oh, okay, then the woman should be repeatedly traumatized every two years just so she can churn out the same heart and gut wrenching stuff for her rabid fan’s personal edification.

However, I’m not sure what happened with Beekeeper. It has its moments, but it just doesn’t measure up to her best work.

Josh D, sorry I didn’t the read from your post that you actually like the album, that did not come across too well. Cheers then.

By: JoshD

JoshD — Fri, 04 May 2007 11:23:37 +0000

Ooooo-kay. Superstarcastians, back me up on this:

1) An album is not made to be listen from the star to the end
Yes, it is. If it weren’t, an artist would just make singles. A 79-minute album, in this case, is indicative of the fact that Tori’s just a bit too full of her artistic self and doesn’t realize that she needs to cut a few of the crappier songs, for pacing. They can be b-sides, Tori! It’s okay!

2) I hardly ever skip chapters while watching a DVD, unless I had to leave and am picking up from where I left off. The idea that filmmakers want you to just watch five minutes of their artistic statement is just ludicrous. Do you only look at two square inches of a Picasso? No, you take in the whole thing.

3)yeah, she already did everything she could do
Oh! So it IS laziness! Criminy. I respect Tori Amos enough to expect her to make better records than Scarlet’s Walk or the Beekeeper. I’m sorry you don’t.

By: Rubens Jr.

Rubens Jr. — Fri, 04 May 2007 03:49:04 +0000

Well, people do not realize 2 important things:

1) An album is not made to be listen from the star to the end from the exactly moment that you turn your cd player on… the SKIP button was made to… errr… skip songs when you already heard them or when you already heard some of the firsts but hadn’t time to finish all the listening. It’s a very important button on the digital world era, so… a 79 minutes album is not an excuse to low its importance. If it could be like this, well, then DVD would not have chapters and everytime you would like to see an important scene you would have to watch all the movie from the start to the point you are expecting.

2) I think that for an artist like Tori Amos, 9 albuns and a huge list of b-sides and unreleased tracks goes to a point that… yeah, she already did everything she could do. So, this is another fact that people do not consider when are listening to a Tori’s new album, people are always expecting Tori to be BETTER and BETTER and… hey, stop it, ok? If you want another Boys For Pele or another From The Choirgirl Hotel so go listen to it once more! People just need to stop comparing new albuns with the old ones because each album is unique for its own. Tori Amos doesn’t need reviews anymore, just understanding.

By: JoshD

JoshD — Wed, 02 May 2007 22:15:40 +0000

Y’know, that’s the thing I was trying hard to get across: despite my many reservations, I really do like the record. It’s not the best thing she’s ever done, but it’s pretty damn good.

And I’ve listened to Choirgirl since. I think “Northern Lad’ is a right nice tune.

By: David V

David V — Wed, 02 May 2007 12:23:42 +0000

Joshd, your review is probably one of the least biased I’ve read, as most people have chosen sides at this point as to whether or not Tori’s career is “washed up,” so I respect your viewpoint. However, I would encourage you and other readers to give the CD a few spins before ruling this one out. While 4 or 5 tracks could have and should have been cut, this is some pretty damn good music. I’m relieved to see songs like ‘You Can Bring Your Dog,’ ‘Father’s Son,’ ‘Body and Soul,’ and ‘Smokey Joe’ added to the catalogue. They are refreshing additions after Tori’s last album (Beekeeper), which was only slightly better than melodramatic mush. By the way, you only gave ‘Choirgirl’ a couple of listens??? Yikes!!!

By: Sam E.

Sam E. — Tue, 01 May 2007 03:07:36 +0000

Trimming the wasteful fluff would require excising most of Tori’s career, at least in my opinion. But I enjoyed your review nonetheless ^_^