Comments on: The Always Innovative Beck Not a Loser After All

By: joiezabel

joiezabel — Fri, 25 Aug 2006 17:01:07 +0000

i think you are looking at this from the wrong perspective.Â while bands may not make a lot of money directly from record sales, the sales do affect radio play and media, which affects touring, which affects the band financially.Â and if it is really true that bands don\’t care about record sales, then why do some of them bitch about downloading and stuff?

but whatever.Â my point in writingÂ this was not to push my idea, believe it or not. it was to push beck\’s idea. thanks for playing though.

By: Commissar Startastic

Commissar Startastic — Fri, 25 Aug 2006 16:46:33 +0000

Maybe Guns n Roses was a bad example. In the case of your indie band they are making $100 a night and $.25 per album sale. At smaller venues the ticket price is arbitrarily set by the owner anyway. Your discount the ticket for buying the album is a cool idea, but I just don’t think its feasable. The only thing those bands control is their merch, and like I said, why would a band give you their bread and butter for pumping money into their labels pocket.

My ultimate point - record sales and ticket sales are totally separate entities driven by different economic pressures. The band doesnt give a shit about album sales unless its from their merch table.

Its a nice idea for the fans though

By: amber

amber — Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:21:33 +0000

beck is always one step ahead of everyone else…

i’m pretty certain i heard/read his new album will be titled “the information”…
i saw the video for the first single the other day…beck is still at his finest, i must say.

By: joiezabel

joiezabel — Thu, 24 Aug 2006 18:04:17 +0000

i don’t really care about the major label arena. i figure by that point, both bands and their labels make enough money that they should just shut up and roll in their scrooge mcduck money bins.

i’m all about piracy, you know that. it’s just interesting to see good ideas like beck’s that actually attempt to grow with technology and the times instead of fighting against them.

also…never, ever hold axel rose up to me as any kind of model for anything ever again. kthanks.

By: Commissar Startastic

Commissar Startastic — Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:48:19 +0000

Your buy the album get into the show cheaper idea would be good for independent bands, but I think it doesnt play out in the major label arena.

Once inspired by Steve Albinis infamous article, http://negativland.com/albini.html, I did some quick numbers for one of the last truly *huge* bands, Guns \\\’n Roses. My numbers showed that each member of Gun n Roses profited about $.25 per album sale. My numbers also showed each band member made something like 20k for one of their stadium shows.

Now if I were Axel Rose (*shudders*) why wouldnt I be more compelled to say, give the music away? I would definately see internet music downloading as a god send. The most I would be willing to give a fan would be that $.25 maybe?

Bands wanting their own piece of the pie is what has driven ticket prices up. And I dont blame them.