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	<title>Comments on: Hungry? Try A Slice of Sacred Cow Pie</title>
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	<description>What Are You Listening To, Commie?</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tyler</title>
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		<dc:creator>tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes rules, and anybody that can't see that is blind deaf and dumb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes rules, and anybody that can&#8217;t see that is blind deaf and dumb.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Hunt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 21:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*As far as paying our writers goes, I have started giving Oliver reach-arounds. FYI.*

See, I don't ask for much.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*As far as paying our writers goes, I have started giving Oliver reach-arounds. FYI.*</p>
<p>See, I don&#8217;t ask for much.  <img src='http://www.superstarcastic.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Commissar Startastic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Commissar Startastic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 04:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What did I say?  Trashing sacred cows are boring and you got alot of feedback :)

As far as paying our writers goes,  I have started giving Oliver reach-arounds.  FYI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What did I say?  Trashing sacred cows are boring and you got alot of feedback <img src='http://www.superstarcastic.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As far as paying our writers goes,  I have started giving Oliver reach-arounds.  FYI.</p>
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		<title>By: JoshD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoshD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A) The main reason I keep bringing up the fact that you blame the band on their fans is that you don't have much else in the way of criticism in the article.  The only other points you actually make are that they made the same record over and over again.  You know what?  There are a lot of other bands that don't even have ONE original concept.  And they sure as fuck don't mean as much to people as the Ramones did.

B) It's my opinion that the Ramones' first four albums are their best work.  Everything past that is pretty much downhill.

C) The Ramones are far from a sacred cow for me.  I'm just suggesting that if you want to do this sort of thing, it should be far more well-reasoned and have some actual points.  There's a book called &lt;a href="http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?z=y&#38;EAN=9781569802762&#38;itm=2" rel="nofollow"&gt;Kill Your Idols&lt;/a&gt; that does just that thing with fantastic precision, to some of my favorite (and least favorite) records.

D) Whoa, Superstarcastic started paying their writers?  When did that happen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A) The main reason I keep bringing up the fact that you blame the band on their fans is that you don&#8217;t have much else in the way of criticism in the article.  The only other points you actually make are that they made the same record over and over again.  You know what?  There are a lot of other bands that don&#8217;t even have ONE original concept.  And they sure as fuck don&#8217;t mean as much to people as the Ramones did.</p>
<p>B) It&#8217;s my opinion that the Ramones&#8217; first four albums are their best work.  Everything past that is pretty much downhill.</p>
<p>C) The Ramones are far from a sacred cow for me.  I&#8217;m just suggesting that if you want to do this sort of thing, it should be far more well-reasoned and have some actual points.  There&#8217;s a book called <a href="http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?z=y&amp;EAN=9781569802762&amp;itm=2" rel="nofollow">Kill Your Idols</a> that does just that thing with fantastic precision, to some of my favorite (and least favorite) records.</p>
<p>D) Whoa, Superstarcastic started paying their writers?  When did that happen?</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Hunt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 17:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, but you appear to be implying that unless one cuts four "classic" albums they're not entitled to express an opinion of either band or fan. 

And why four "classic" albums? Is four the cut off point? It seems a bit arbitrary.

And you say you're all for sacrificing some sacred cows. Is that some as in not all? Maybe as in just not yours?

I'm sorry if my job wasn't to your satisfaction. However, you're not exactly signing my paychecks or anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, but you appear to be implying that unless one cuts four &#8220;classic&#8221; albums they&#8217;re not entitled to express an opinion of either band or fan. </p>
<p>And why four &#8220;classic&#8221; albums? Is four the cut off point? It seems a bit arbitrary.</p>
<p>And you say you&#8217;re all for sacrificing some sacred cows. Is that some as in not all? Maybe as in just not yours?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry if my job wasn&#8217;t to your satisfaction. However, you&#8217;re not exactly signing my paychecks or anything.</p>
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		<title>By: JoshD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoshD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 06:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Why donâ€™t you go make four debatably classic albums, then apologize for your asshole fans?&lt;/i&gt;

Because I'm not the one who wrote the completely wrongheaded article.

Believe me, I'm all for sacrificing some sacred cows, but you didn't do a good job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Why donâ€™t you go make four debatably classic albums, then apologize for your asshole fans?</i></p>
<p>Because I&#8217;m not the one who wrote the completely wrongheaded article.</p>
<p>Believe me, I&#8217;m all for sacrificing some sacred cows, but you didn&#8217;t do a good job.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 02:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DJ--I remember when my best friend of yesterdyear made me listen to Ballbreaker. To this day, I enjoy running around singing "She threw me on the BED!"

Drew--I'm glad you've finally come around to The Clash. I TOLD YOU SO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DJ&#8211;I remember when my best friend of yesterdyear made me listen to Ballbreaker. To this day, I enjoy running around singing &#8220;She threw me on the BED!&#8221;</p>
<p>Drew&#8211;I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;ve finally come around to The Clash. I TOLD YOU SO.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 01:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CBGB club closes. Now it sells overpriced T-shirt for the Children of the "Ironic."

I'd rather not speculate on what this says about society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CBGB club closes. Now it sells overpriced T-shirt for the Children of the &#8220;Ironic.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d rather not speculate on what this says about society.</p>
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		<title>By: joiezabel</title>
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		<dc:creator>joiezabel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 22:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i wouldn't use cbgb as my reference for all things punk anymore, especially in reference to babies...
&lt;img src="http://www.8ball.co.uk/productimages/29315-2.jpg" /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wouldn&#8217;t use cbgb as my reference for all things punk anymore, especially in reference to babies&#8230;<br />
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 22:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK. I may have been painting a little too broadly when I said 70s rock was in a stupor before punk. The Velvet Underground was fucking brilliant, ditto with Bowie, and ditto with about 42 other bands that don't come immediately to mind because I'm not that well-versed on 70s rock. Heck, I'll even open myself up to criticism and say that Rush's 'A Farewell to Kings' gives me goosebumps whenever I listen to it.

But, and I'm merely playing devil's advocate here, how is punk dumbed down? Simple in a lot of cases, sure, in terms of instrumentation. But the songwriting? A lot of it -- 'Marquee Moon' comes to mind, so do 'London Calling' and (I'll go out on a limb here and call it punk, though it's reaching but not quite getting a handhold into definitively post-punk territory) 'You Can't Hide Your Love Forever' from the other side of The Pond -- still seems relevant today, still sounds fresh. And though some punk is simplistic (Isn't that simplicity intended?), a lot of other, more musically complex, stuff germinated in the creative ferment that surrounded the punk scene. Or at least that's the word on the street -- couldn't tell you first-hand, as I don't think they'd have let a 2-year-old into CBGB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK. I may have been painting a little too broadly when I said 70s rock was in a stupor before punk. The Velvet Underground was fucking brilliant, ditto with Bowie, and ditto with about 42 other bands that don&#8217;t come immediately to mind because I&#8217;m not that well-versed on 70s rock. Heck, I&#8217;ll even open myself up to criticism and say that Rush&#8217;s &#8216;A Farewell to Kings&#8217; gives me goosebumps whenever I listen to it.</p>
<p>But, and I&#8217;m merely playing devil&#8217;s advocate here, how is punk dumbed down? Simple in a lot of cases, sure, in terms of instrumentation. But the songwriting? A lot of it &#8212; &#8216;Marquee Moon&#8217; comes to mind, so do &#8216;London Calling&#8217; and (I&#8217;ll go out on a limb here and call it punk, though it&#8217;s reaching but not quite getting a handhold into definitively post-punk territory) &#8216;You Can&#8217;t Hide Your Love Forever&#8217; from the other side of The Pond &#8212; still seems relevant today, still sounds fresh. And though some punk is simplistic (Isn&#8217;t that simplicity intended?), a lot of other, more musically complex, stuff germinated in the creative ferment that surrounded the punk scene. Or at least that&#8217;s the word on the street &#8212; couldn&#8217;t tell you first-hand, as I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;d have let a 2-year-old into CBGB.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Hunt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 20:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay....in answer to some of your critiques...

A.) How can I argue that DUMBING DOWN saved rock from it's stupor? I think I just did.

B.) Never saw that VH1 special. Do I owe some VH1 talking head cultural commentator a royalty for my opinion? He'll have to stand in line behind a couple of creditors if so.

C.)To JoshD....right, I'm sure many a Grateful Dead fan has made the same argument. In fact, I'm sure many a band with many an asshole fan has said the same thing. There wouldn't be asshole fans without a source, and the source for assholism tends to feed off of the assholes. It's all like some sick form of ass-symbiosis. Why don't you go make four debatably classic albums, then apologize for your asshole fans?

D.) It has to be noted that, in the eighties, ALL FOUR of the Ramones were Reagan admirers. There were concerts where they'd refused to play Bonzo Goes to Bitburg because Joey, of all people, actually like how Reagan was supposedly "making things better" in America.

E.) AC/DC only made one good record with Brian Johnson, and that was Back In Black. I'm sorry but they, too, need to just quit. Their Andy Capp looking roadie with the thin, shredded voice just isn't cutting it anymore</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay&#8230;.in answer to some of your critiques&#8230;</p>
<p>A.) How can I argue that DUMBING DOWN saved rock from it&#8217;s stupor? I think I just did.</p>
<p>B.) Never saw that VH1 special. Do I owe some VH1 talking head cultural commentator a royalty for my opinion? He&#8217;ll have to stand in line behind a couple of creditors if so.</p>
<p>C.)To JoshD&#8230;.right, I&#8217;m sure many a Grateful Dead fan has made the same argument. In fact, I&#8217;m sure many a band with many an asshole fan has said the same thing. There wouldn&#8217;t be asshole fans without a source, and the source for assholism tends to feed off of the assholes. It&#8217;s all like some sick form of ass-symbiosis. Why don&#8217;t you go make four debatably classic albums, then apologize for your asshole fans?</p>
<p>D.) It has to be noted that, in the eighties, ALL FOUR of the Ramones were Reagan admirers. There were concerts where they&#8217;d refused to play Bonzo Goes to Bitburg because Joey, of all people, actually like how Reagan was supposedly &#8220;making things better&#8221; in America.</p>
<p>E.) AC/DC only made one good record with Brian Johnson, and that was Back In Black. I&#8217;m sorry but they, too, need to just quit. Their Andy Capp looking roadie with the thin, shredded voice just isn&#8217;t cutting it anymore</p>
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		<title>By: hotshotrobot</title>
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		<dc:creator>hotshotrobot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 18:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, come on. "Thunderstruck" is a jam. Maybe not a "Whole Lotta Rosie"-level jam, but a jam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, come on. &#8220;Thunderstruck&#8221; is a jam. Maybe not a &#8220;Whole Lotta Rosie&#8221;-level jam, but a jam.</p>
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		<title>By: Commissar Startastic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Commissar Startastic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 18:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DJ, I can't believe you said that.  AC/DCs record only kicked ass about the first 7 times.  If you really feel that way please send me your copies of High Voltage and Dirty Deeds (because I dont have them) and you can sit at home and listen to Ballbreaker and Thunderstruck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DJ, I can&#8217;t believe you said that.  AC/DCs record only kicked ass about the first 7 times.  If you really feel that way please send me your copies of High Voltage and Dirty Deeds (because I dont have them) and you can sit at home and listen to Ballbreaker and Thunderstruck.</p>
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		<title>By: hotshotrobot</title>
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		<dc:creator>hotshotrobot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 16:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The Ramones were a shrewd bunch of Republicans&lt;/i&gt;

Wait, isn't that about 75% wrong? Someone clear this up.

Anyway, two other quick points:

1) AC/DC also has recorded the same album about 15 times, and god bless 'em for it, because that record still kicks ass the 15th time!

2) This article is about 11 years too late, as Green Bay's Boris the Sprinkler recorded "KIll The Ramones" around 1996, if i remember correctly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The Ramones were a shrewd bunch of Republicans</i></p>
<p>Wait, isn&#8217;t that about 75% wrong? Someone clear this up.</p>
<p>Anyway, two other quick points:</p>
<p>1) AC/DC also has recorded the same album about 15 times, and god bless &#8216;em for it, because that record still kicks ass the 15th time!</p>
<p>2) This article is about 11 years too late, as Green Bay&#8217;s Boris the Sprinkler recorded &#8220;KIll The Ramones&#8221; around 1996, if i remember correctly.</p>
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		<title>By: JoshD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoshD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 07:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sigh.

One Republican in your band or no, YOU make at least four classic albums, then you can start blaming bands for their asshole fans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh.</p>
<p>One Republican in your band or no, YOU make at least four classic albums, then you can start blaming bands for their asshole fans.</p>
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